Lord Crimson

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Total Victory

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With all the political rhetoric floating around about when should the troops be withdrawn from Iraq begs the question, “Have Washington politicians forgotten how to win a war?” Judging from their record of wins versus losses I would say, yes. By contrast they certainly have no problem getting us into a war, but for some reason have a problem completing the mission. Let’s take a look at some of the reasons why.

Over the past half century or so, the US has developed the strongest and most well equipped military that has ever existed. Knowing this we can safely exclude the military or a lack of resources as the reason the US loses wars. In fact history proves building such a capable military has been a colossal waste of taxpayer money. Why? Because politicians will not permit military leaders to use the necessary strength it takes to win a war. On the contrary, they feel the need to impose rules of engagement that require the military to fight with one hand tied behind it’s back. Of course this tactic virtually guarantees more friendly troops will be killed and also explains why the US hasn’t won a war since 1945.

You may have noticed that Congress no longer takes the responsibility for going to war by actually “declaring war” on the enemy. Instead they prefer a more CYA approach commonly known as the “police action.” Why does Congress encourage fighting a war in this manor? Because a police action provides great political cover for politicians. They get to assume the role of observer and avoid responsibility for a war they vote to wage. To officially declare war on the enemy doesn’t permit this luxury. History proves that waging war using the “police action” creates an open ended campaign and the path to victory is harder if not impossible to define.

As the war drags on, the Democrats have wasted little time in their efforts to blame the President. They are seeking to absolve themselves of “their” decision to deploy troops by claiming they were lied too. How convenient and disingenuous considering we now know most of the information that they knew at the time a decision had to be made. You have probably heard this statement so profoundly delivered by Hillary Clinton, “If I knew then what I know now I would have voted against the war.” Think about that for a moment and see if it doesn’t make you scratch your head. If I knew then what I know now I would have picked the correct lottery numbers and would never have to work again.

Another clue that politicians no longer know how to win a war is that they feel the need to get permission from the United Nations before defending the country. The reason for this treachery is that they view it as a way to divert responsibility if things go wrong. You see politicians are selfish creatures and with few exceptions are not willing to risk their power, poll numbers or next election for the sake of something so trivial as a military victory. The good of the country and it’s people fall well below their personal ambitions.

So this brings us back to the question, “When should the troops be withdrawn from Iraq?” This is one of those questions whose answer is so obvious it makes one wonder why it is being tossed about in the first place. The answer is, “The day after the war is won.”

On your quest for wisdom you must understand that there is never a substitute for victory. Cutting and running from one situation usually creates newer and more dangerous ones down the road. Days are growing to a close where this will be an option so perhaps Washington politicians should begin thinking “Total Victory” as a novel new approach to waging war.


Written by Lord Crimson

April 28, 2007 at 3:55 pm

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  1. Well said my friend. Revolting to think about, but it is the truth.

    I cannot help but wonder why our politicians prefer fighting the war in a politically correct fashion at the expense of costing more lives on all sides. Selfish creatures doesn’t even begin to describe most of the politicians in DC.


    April 28, 2007 at 4:08 pm

  2. Hi w


    Yes, war is an ugly business and when it comes our way it only makes sense to end it as soon as possible. Allowing these things to drag out only diminishes the chances for a positive outcome.

    I am sadden to see some of the same mistakes in this war that were committed in previous wars. It makes you wonder if anyone in Washington has ever read a history book.

    Lord Crimson

    Lord Crimson

    April 28, 2007 at 4:59 pm

  3. Hi LC,

    I second w on well said. However, you may have missed a connection between our earlier failures. If memory serves, liberals were in charge of Congress during each “lost” war. Liberals feel instead of thinking. One of their central motivations is that they feel guilty because of the general success of the US. This, as I see it, forces them to screw things up at every opportunity. Making America look bad, lessens their guilt, and, thus, makes them feel good, like drug addicts getting a fix. Heck, it may even be a subconscious thing. Perhaps we should send them to libhab?

    the Grit

    the Grit

    April 28, 2007 at 7:33 pm

  4. i’m also joining in the “well said”.


    April 28, 2007 at 7:55 pm

  5. Well said club sounds good….

    I also agree with the Grit on feeling rather than thinking. I would add that their feeling is never concentrated on the right things. They are far too concerned about preserving freedom to do as one chooses regardless of the consequences, or whatever makes them feel good. It doesn’t make them feel good, apparently, to fight bad guys.

    And we don’t have to send them to libhab, just to Rush.


    April 28, 2007 at 8:13 pm

  6. LC

    Hillary Clinton, “If I knew then what I know now I would have voted against the war.”

    Well at the time she justified her vote to the Code Pink gals on March 6, 2002 she stated that she was doing so because of her independent evluation of the situation of the previous 9 years and through her personal contacts in the intelligence community. She is essentially suggesting her and other places that she bought George Bush’s line. Something she denied at the time. Check this out. The lead up to the speech is hillarious.

    Also, I said that we will not only lose this war but that we will never win another war again if we have to fight it according to the cry babies on the left in Congress. We won WWII but would have lost under these guidlines. There would have never been Dresden, Belin, Tokyo, Nagasaki, Hiroshima, etc and we would have lost more US troops and the outcome would have been in doub.

    . . . . . . . Nest Stop Lauderdale


    April 29, 2007 at 1:59 am

  7. Hi Grit, mz and tld

    You raise an interesting point, liberals and their govern by feelings approach has infiltrated all of society. Yet, it seems the more their influence becomes reality the more they hate this country.

    Now that should give us all something to think about.

    Lord Crimson

    Lord Crimson

    April 29, 2007 at 12:22 pm

  8. Hi stevereenie

    Hillary agreed with the mission and supported the President’s decision as she should have. Now, instead of standing by her decision like any good leader would do she blames her decision on others. The true stripes of a Clinton.

    Not to let the President off the hook, he played around too long with the United Nations giving Saddam time to relocate the WMD’s to Syria or possibly somewhere in Russia. We know he had them because he used them on the Kurds.

    Keeping Clinton appointees like George Tenet as the head of the CIA was another mistake in judgment. This mistake was very costly to him and he should know that anything the Clinton’s are associated with is probably corrupt or soon will be.

    Thanks for the video link… very revealing and speaks for itself.

    Lord Crimson

    Lord Crimson

    April 29, 2007 at 1:08 pm

  9. It’s a different age. I was born way too late. I would gladly give up all the technology in my life to have experienced America during and after WW2. The sacrafice, determination and Victory. One Nation, united.


    May 1, 2007 at 10:36 pm

  10. Hi YH

    It’s nice to look back to the days when life had more clarity. When an ice cream cone or bottle of pop was a big deal. When you could ride your bike safely through the neighborhood or catch fireflies as the street lights were coming on. When night brought all the neighborhood kids together to play kick-the-can and afterwards tell ghost stories. That is if there was no school the next day. It was a time when anything was possible.

    Lord Crimson

    Lord Crimson

    May 2, 2007 at 12:16 am

  11. The war cannot be won without the achievement of goals.

    There can be no goals without their being in a declaration of war.

    There can be no declaration of war unless congress declares it.

    Congress can’t declare it with the authorization of military force in the way.

    Here is one way to solve that:


    If there be war, let it be legal and with an objective.


    May 24, 2007 at 3:02 am

  12. Hi Dar

    After reading the link you provided I find that I must disagree with Ron Paul and his method of how to lose a war.

    Even if I agreed with Paul on how wrong entering Iraq was it doesn’t matter now. We are there and leaving without total victory is a mistake.

    If politicians would spend as much time planning for victory as they do planning on how to lose gracefully then this wouldn’t even be an issue. Ron Paul and his fellow politicians should submit a plan on how to win instead of how to lose.

    Lord Crimson

    Lord Crimson

    May 24, 2007 at 11:54 am

  13. The victory has been accomplished. Congress gave away powers there were their responsibility. Yet, even so, congress did vaguely specify victory: Make sure there are no WMD in Iraq and bring down Iraq leadership. Those have been met. Victory is here. Total victory.

    Bush can make up other criteria, but to do so is illegal. He can ask congress for a true declaration of war. He can even ask for extended criterial for victory.


    June 6, 2007 at 7:59 pm

  14. Hi Dar

    You make a great point that no declaration of war has been offered. A mistake Presidents and Congress continue to make. By going the police action route the only thing they seem to accomplish is an open ended conflict with no idea of what victory is, much less how to achieve it.

    The WMD’s are no doubt in Syria, but diplomatic niceties seem to be more important than disposing of them. The administration won’t call them on it because we certainly can’t offend the Syrians. It’s all madness.

    Lord Crimson

    Lord Crimson

    June 6, 2007 at 9:54 pm

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