Lord Crimson

Wisdom from the Realm

Arming The Enemy

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Abbas Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has urgently requested an infusion of emergency funds and military weapons in order to help his Fatah Party defeat Iranian backed Hamas. The goal of Abbas is to retake Gaza after Hamas took it from him during a recent skirmish. On the surface the request for aid may seem reasonable, but let’s take a look at why it is just another testament to the folly of US foreign policy.

The first thing we must recognize is that Fatah and Hamas are both terrorist organizations. Knowing this, why is the US and Europe sending military and financial aid to terrorist? It’s certainly no secret that the US has sent a tide of arms to the Palestinians in the past, so where are these weapons today? Why do they need more? The answer is these weapons are now in the hands of Hamas and Iran.

“We informed you many times we would obtain American arms brought to Gaza in the conspiracy against our government and we inform you that Hamas is now swimming in American weapons. We have no worries about running out of weapons or ammunition thanks to your American government.” Abu Abdullah – Hamas Spokesman

Hamas proved this claim by brandishing American assault rifles, rocket propelled grenades, rocket launchers and ammunition all of which had been provided to Fatah.

What is the US going to do about it? Give more weapons to the same guys who let the last batch fall into the hands of one of the worlds most brutal terrorist organizations? Apparently so. Even now the US and Europe are making arrangements to transfer emergency aid to Abbas in an effort to help him secure the west bank. Not surprising Israel is also being asked to make concessions to the Palestinian Authority in the west bank to help Abbas boost his non-existent credibly.

Now we must ask, who exactly is receiving this aid? President Mahmoud Abbas is the world’s first global terrorist. He is responsible for instituting and perfecting airline hijackings and the Munich massacre. Now though his actions, he has allowed advanced US weapons to fall into the hands of Hamas and Iran.

At this point we might ask the question, why did Fatah have these weapons in the first place? I’m sure the US soldiers destined to die by these weapons would like an explanation. There is a time for compassion and there is a time for sober thought. To send more aid to these people is a travesty.

On your quest for wisdom you must understand that we learn from history that man learns nothing from history. The leaders of the west have minds that can not perceive truth even when it’s in their own best interest. What else can we conclude when the actions of those in high places continue to arm the enemy before a battle.

Written by Lord Crimson

June 25, 2007 at 4:53 pm

Posted in Iran, Military, News, Politics, War

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  1. Hi LC,

    While I see your point, I feel the need to point out a couple of things that might make you feel a tiny bit better about this situation. First, those are hardly advanced weapons. If the various homicidal Palestinian factions didn’t get them from us, they’d have absolutely no problem acquiring the Russian/Chinese equivalents. Better our industry makes the money. As to why arm them now, because they are killing each other! As long as they are doing that, I say give them all the small arms and ammunition they want! Heck, we should offer air support to one side, then to the other, then to the other. I feel that we should always help our enemies kill each other. As to Iran, if they get caught with weapons we provided to the Palestinians, that’s just one more item on the big list of why we should take them out.

    the Grit

    the Grit

    June 25, 2007 at 7:39 pm

  2. Hi Grit

    I also considered the cause and effect of arming our enemies while they are killing each other. On the surface it sounds like a good idea, but in practice it never quite seems to work out the way you hope.

    One example is Saddam’s chemical and biological weapons. The reason we were so certain he possessed WMD’s is because the US gave them to him in the 80’s so he could use them in his war against Iran. Apparently he liked it so much that after the war he began using them to slaughter his own people.

    Another example, also in the 80’s the CIA recruited young Muslim fundamentalist from around the world in order to fight the Soviet Union in Afghanistan. After this war was over these same Muslim fighters became what we now know as the Taliban and Al Qaeda. Our soldiers are still facing them and some of the weapons we gave them.

    So where does that leave us with terrorist organizations? Well I suppose we can look at it like a hornet’s nest. You kill the entire nest or you leave it alone.

    Lord Crimson

    Lord Crimson

    June 25, 2007 at 9:13 pm

  3. I’m for killing the entire nest.


    June 26, 2007 at 7:36 pm

  4. Hi w

    A more aggressive strategy is definitely in order. This poking it with a stick ain’t working.

    Lord Crimson

    Lord Crimson

    June 26, 2007 at 8:17 pm

  5. Hi LC,

    While you make some good points, I would point out that the CIA’s role in Afghanistan was mostly supplying Stinger missiles; the Muslims managed to do their own recruiting. Bin Laden, for instance, was there long before we got involved. While we were a bit optimistic in believing that the rag heads would be grateful for this assistance, its considerable contribution to the fall of the USSR was, in my opinion, worth it. As to facing the weapons from that age, no. Modern weapons don’t have that kind of shelf life. Now, some of the greats from WWII are a different story, but those aren’t in our inventory anymore.

    As to killing them all, heck yes! The problem is with separating them from the civilian population. Line them up and I will gladly work double shifts putting bullets in the back of their heads. Now, while I am convinced that those civilian populations are supporting the terrorists, convincing our general population of that is a problem. Until that happens, our politicians are far too spineless to do the right thing even if it means sacrificing their cushy careers. Thus, unfortunately, we will have to wait until they hit a major city really hard, so the public outrage will make our “leaders” feel secure with a decision to settle this conflict.

    Happy to live in a rural setting,
    the Grit

    the Grit

    June 26, 2007 at 8:46 pm

  6. Hi Grit

    The Muslims did do their own recruiting, but the CIA expedited the process in order for them to get to Afghanistan. They also provided weapons and training.

    You bring up one important point that we always overlook when helping any Islamic country. They may use us, they may tolerate us, but expecting any long term gratitude for our assistance should never be considered a part of the equation.

    Why do we need to separate terrorist from the civilian population? The destruction of civilian targets has always been an objective in war. At least wars you have any expectations of winning. As long as they insist in hiding among civilians then the blood is on their hands not ours. You may have noticed that our civilian population is one of their targets so it would be only polite to return the favor.

    Lord Crimson

    Lord Crimson

    June 26, 2007 at 11:43 pm

  7. Hi LC,

    As to civilian populations and their place in war, I agree with you. If you shelter a criminal in your home, don’t complain about the police breaking down your door.

    As to expecting gratitude from helping Islamic countries, it would seem that we can scratch out “Islamic,” and your statement would still be true. It makes me wonder why we bother.

    the Grit

    the Grit

    June 27, 2007 at 8:45 pm

  8. Hi Grit

    Great question, why do we bother?

    Lord Crimson

    Lord Crimson

    June 28, 2007 at 11:26 am

  9. Hi LC,

    Because the base motivation of politicians is to be liked. That, after all, is how they get and keep their jobs. Unfortunately, it would seem that many of them can’t differentiate between people who can and can’t vote for them.

    the Grit

    the Grit

    June 28, 2007 at 8:19 pm

  10. LC Good points here. I’d weigh in on the Grit’s side of giving them the weapons they need to kill off eachother. If our weapons are designed to kill the enemy, the only thing better than that is to let our enemies do the trigger pulling. I wouldn’t recommend any fighter jets, tanks or blackhawk helicopters though. Maybe I would recommend chemical weapons constructed with a remotly controlled trigger mechanism that would enable us to eradicate them as we may see fit later. ……….steve

    Next Stop Lauderdale

    June 30, 2007 at 6:07 am

  11. Hi Grit

    Any time I feel the need to like a politician I simply look at the the amount of money they steal from me in the form of over-taxation and I quickly get over it.

    Lord Crimson

    Lord Crimson

    June 30, 2007 at 12:17 pm

  12. Hi Steve

    I can see where you might agree with the Grit, he does make many valid points. In the overall scheme of things I also agree if as you mentioned there was a way to remotely destroy any weapons at a later date.

    In fact, what a great thing to be able to sell weapons with this feature to the Iranians or some other power mad dictatorship. In the midst of an invasion press destruct which causes their weapons to malfunction. It would be like shooting fish in a barrel. Now that’s the way to win a war.

    Lord Crimson

    Lord Crimson

    June 30, 2007 at 12:41 pm

  13. Hi LC,

    Just checking to see if you’re OK.

    the Grit

    the Grit

    July 6, 2007 at 7:17 pm

  14. Hi LC,

    Dang! How much vacation time do you get?! Still, I hope you’re enjoying it.

    the Grit

    the Grit

    July 9, 2007 at 9:39 pm

  15. LC, Well maybe only enough arms to achieve a “balance of power” and guarantee mutually assured destruction. 🙂 ………steve

    Next Stop Lauderdale

    July 10, 2007 at 2:17 pm

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