Lord Crimson

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Catholic Heresy

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It’s no secret that the agents of evil are always testing the waters. In this case the agent is among the fold and preaches heresy from within. I imagine to some extent it has always been that way, but these days the instances seems more striking.

The Catholic Church and it’s hierarchy is veiled in a supernatural darkness. What other explanation can there be when they display such obvious confusion.

Their latest claim to fame, and the confusion for which I refer is about a Dutch bishop named Bishop Tiny Muskens. Tiny, humm, that must reflect the size of his faith. For some reason he believes it’s alright to attach the name Allah to God. I suppose that’s much like calling an elephant a mouse. Those two aren’t the same either.

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn’t we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? … What does God care what we call him? It is our problem?”

Never have I seen a persons name fit so well. Tiny also reflects his biblical knowledge. It’s painfully clear that the Catholic Church allows anyone to remain a bishop these days. I must ask, how is it possible for a Catholic Bishop not to know the difference between God and Allah?

Muskens said, “God did not mind what he was named and that in Indonesia, where I spent eight years, priests used the word “Allah” while celebrating Mass.”

The answer here is that Bishop Tiny Muskens is in reality Mullah Tiny Muskens, Catholic infiltrator.

The good news is Mullah Muskens will shortly retire. The bad news is sadly not before inflicting as much damage as possible on the lives he has come in contact with. In any case, I’m sure he will continue to corrupt truth and rejoice in his confused obsession.

Thankfully the Protestants haven’t been taken in. Gerrit de Fijter, chairman of the Protestant Church in the Netherlands, said he welcomed any attempt to “create more dialogue”, but added, “Calling God ‘Allah’ does no justice to Western identity. I see no benefit in it.”

Not a strong enough statement, but encouraging.

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Written by Lord Crimson

August 16, 2007 at 4:02 pm

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  1. Dear Sir, I work for BBC World Service radio in London and in our programme, World Have Your Say, today (Friday 17th August) between 1300 to 1500 East Coast Time in the US we will be talking about the suggestion by the Dutch Archbishop that Christians should call God Allah, and were wondering if the author of Catholic Heresy would be interested in taking part in our programme. Please call me on +447751727964 or +442075570635 or email your phone numbers and I will call you straight back.

    Martin Vennard

    August 17, 2007 at 12:24 pm

  2. But you forgot to point out that Arab Christians use the word “Allah” to call “God”. Their identity predates Arab Muslims. If you use that kind of reasoning then you should stop calling God as God. After all, that word is not in the original Scriptures which we have received in Greek and Hebrew. Using “Theos” and “YHWH” could fix that problem.

    Engr. Dr.

    August 17, 2007 at 2:36 pm

  3. This is utter nonsense! “SHOULD” God be called Allah is irrelevant. The fact that you compare this to a mouse and elephant shows total ignorance. The word Allah is the Arabic for God. Period. Just like the word Dieu in French means God in English or the word Elohim, Eli, Yahweh in Hebrew mean God and so on. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_God.

    And if you have been out in the world – especially the Middle East, you would have learned that the Arabic Bible and Christians in that region do use the name Allah for God.

    attendingtheworld

    August 17, 2007 at 2:49 pm

  4. I thought Shakespeare settled this when he wrote, “That which we call a rose By any other name would smell as sweet.” Unless you mean that “Allah” would connote the wrong impression, that we already have associations with the word and calling God “Allah” would change our understanding of him.

    Other than being in Arabic, what does “Allah” mean? It’s a definite article (“al”) compounded with a generic word for God (“ilah,” echoing the Aramaic “elah” and Hebrew “el”, which is found all over the Bible, left untranslated at the ends of names). In this sense, the main difference is that “Allah” is explicitly monotheistic, which I, as a Christian, have no problem with!

    Perhaps you mean that calling God “Allah” would conflate Islamic and Christian beliefs about God? If you ask a Muslim what he or she believes about Allah, you would get a long list of commonalities (compassionate, omnipotent, immanent, transcendant, paternal…) before you get to the differences (non-trinitarian, non-incarnate). Is that enough to say that we can’t even use the word? Is it that precise? There were Islamic Sufis who believed God is trinitarian and there are Unitarian and Mormon Christians who don’t. It’s hard to imagine that the use of a word with this much variance, without an accompanying explanation, indicates a whole belief system. Even in the height of the Inquisition, heresy wasn’t charged without a hearing, to ask what exactly the bishop meant.

    What do you believe is the difference between “God” and “Allah”? If it’s like the difference between an elephant and a mouse, then it’s not what I’m thinking, and I’d like to know.

    jpivarski

    August 17, 2007 at 3:59 pm

  5. Each of you make some good points, however I stand by my conclusion that Allah is not God, or Yahweh if you prefer.

    In the Quran, Allah claims to be the one and only. It is stated in no uncertain terms that Allah does “not” have a son.

    God (Yahweh) clearly does have a Son, Christ.

    How can God and Allah be the same?

    Lord Crimson

    August 17, 2007 at 4:47 pm

  6. “Allah” is also a proper name, previously attributed to a Babylonian moon god. If we are going to refer to the God of the Universe by a title (like God, Lord, etc. – including El, Eloi, or even al illah), that’s very different that calling him by the name of another god.

    The God of Abraham and Moses, whom the Muslims claim to worship, gave his name here…and it’s NOT Allah.

    Regards!

    Godefroi

    August 17, 2007 at 8:55 pm

  7. Muslims do not believe that their God is a Babylonian moon god, and therefore their “Allah” is not a Babylonian moon god, even if the words coincide. Muslims mean it as a statement of monotheism, so if there’s any color to the word, that’s it.

    My apologies to polytheists, but other gods don’t exist— if we refer to the God of the Universe by the name of another god, that’s really the name of some idea someone had once. Especially if it’s an extinct religion!

    The Quran does explicitly disagree with Christian theology. That’s the reason we can’t call God “Allah?” Lots of people use the words “God,” “Jesus,” “Christ,” “Holy Spirit,” etc. in ways that disagree with my theology, but I will continue to use these words and explain what I mean when the need arises.

    By the way, the bishop is right about Christians in Indonesia. A member of my former choir was from Indonesia, and she called God “Allah.” I didn’t really think of it as an issue at the time.

    jpivarski

    August 18, 2007 at 2:08 am

  8. This God/Allah name game may seem insignificant to many, but the real danger is that it introduces confusion into Christianity. The evil of this particular deception is that in a subtle way it confuses exactly how a Christian or more to the point a future Christian views God.

    We may ask, if the name makes no difference, then why don’t followers of Islam call Allah, God?

    No, only Christians are expected to disrespect their deity in order to get along. This should be the first clue that something is wrong.

    The Catholic church is being destroyed from within one insignificance by one insignificance. Catholics should recognize this attack by Mullah Muskens is a direct attack on the sovereignty of God and the First Commandment.

    Lord Crimson

    Lord Crimson

    August 18, 2007 at 4:40 pm

  9. Hello again,

    In a moment I’m going to let this go: it was good for me to see a different point of view, not so much one which is opposed to my own, but rather perpendicular to it. I didn’t imagine that names would have such significance. Or rather, this name in particular. I would protest if people started calling God “Satan” (for the reasons you describe), but I don’t have prior connotations to the word “Allah.”

    In the spirit of thinking about statistics, I’d like to question the statement that Muslims don’t call Allah “God.” I know that I have seen it in writing, a Muslim author using the word “God” because he was writing in English, rather than Arabic. (He explained this in the introduction.) That’s only one example, but I have to wonder if it might be true that more Muslims call their God “God” than Christians call their God “Allah,” for the simple reason that Muslims are more likely to be speaking English than Christians are to be speaking Arabic. They usually leave “Allah” untranslated because we know what it means, but I wonder if the proportions work out anyway.

    I don’t think this Allah movement will have much influence, just like the movement to avoid gendered pronouns. It messed up a few songs, but people mostly sing it the old way.

    Cheers,
    — Jim

    jpivarski

    August 18, 2007 at 8:49 pm

  10. Hi Jim

    There is something about this topic that is intriguing.

    On the surface, perhaps this name thing does seem only a trifle. But if allowed to go unchallenged, these trifles can grow in strength until the harmony of entire congregations are destroyed.

    Perhaps some Muslims call Allah, God. I really can’t speak to that. It just seems important to try and remove the inference that Allah and God are one in the same.

    I agree that the Allah movement stands little chance of taking traction, but it never hurts to stay ahead of these things.

    Thanks for stopping by.

    LC

    Lord Crimson

    August 18, 2007 at 11:25 pm

  11. You do have a point about the confusion we have about the word Allah. The word Allah, however, only became a byword in the West because of its link with radical Islam. Christian Arabs, who by the way, predate Muslim Arabs have a Christian understanding of the word Allah. They believe in Him as the God found in the Bible, Old Testament and New. Furthermore, they believe that Jesus is Allah.
    Why should we disparage the Name that has been loved 600 years before Islam came into being in a way that Christians today love God. Just because radical Islam’s use of it defames the character of God/Allah does not mean that we should do away with that word. What would you say to those Arabs who remained Christian despite the coming of Islam concerning their “wrong” use of the word that they had used for centuries before Islam ever came into being?

    Engr. Dr.

    August 19, 2007 at 2:35 pm

  12. Hi E.D.

    Bishop (Mullah) Muskins is attempting to attach the name Allah to God in a western culture, not an Islamic culture. The world as it is “now” reveals that Muslims are in the process of making Europe their own through immigration.

    Strictly speaking this is possible because where leaders are voted into office, numbers rule the day. Once enough numbers are available you get Muslim leaders ruling in let us say the Netherlands.

    The prime objective of Muslim leaders would be to convert the Dutch to Islam and refine Dutch law to more parallel Islamic law. Think how much easier it will be if the Dutch are already accustomed in praying to Allah. It won’t happen in a single generation, but what about the next?

    In a time where Islamic intentions mirror world domination, even trifles can’t be disregarded.

    Lord Crimson

    Lord Crimson

    August 19, 2007 at 6:22 pm

  13. A more accurate way to look at this is that it isn’t God who wants to be worshiped as Allah, but Allah who wants to be worshiped as God.

    Lord Crimson

    Lord Crimson

    August 21, 2007 at 9:05 pm


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